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bill_m
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 6 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: Ca and CHa |
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A lot of Latin words began with "ca", and Spanish and Italian and other Romance languages honored this. But a lot of the French cognates have a "cha" instead, such as "caritas"(Lat), "carita'"(Ita), "caridad"(Spa), but "charity" in English, through the French "charité".
What's the deal with the French? What caused them to mess with this rather basic sound? _________________ Latin is a dead language... |
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michael_george
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 7 Location: US
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:06 am Post subject: Celtic? |
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When the Romans occupied France, it had a large Celtic population. The Celtic languages are famous for changing the [i]beginning [/i]of words as well as the ends of words for different uses in a sentence. They especially aspirated consonants at the beginning of words ("F"->"FH", "M"->"MH"="v"), etc.
Any chance that the "c" to "ch" shift was related to this? _________________ Michael George |
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jd
Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: Ca and CHa |
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If that were true, why would it be only with "C" followed by "a" and not other vowels? Hmmmn, well, "cher" comes from "cara", doesn't it?
But what about "co-" words?...oh! "cosa"->"chose"! Are there any other French words that begin with "cho-" that came from Latin "co-"? _________________ Rana Pipiens |
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michael_george
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 7 Location: US
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Huh, this does seem to be more common with "ca-" than with other constructions...
campus - champ
camera - chambre
catena - chaine
calor (Sp) - chaleur
candele - chandelle
cambiare - change(?)
canto - chant
capello - chapelle
cada (Sp) - chaque
caricare - charge
carita' - charite'
carta - charte
cacciare - chasser
castita' - chastete'
gatto - chat
castello - chateau
calzone - chausette
Any more? _________________ Michael George |
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tricia_s
Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 6 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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How about all the che- words?
capo - chef
camino - chemin
caro - cher
camisa - chemise
cercare - cherche
cavallo - cheval
capelli - cheveux
capro - chevre
(casa) - chez _________________ Why do the Spanish laugh when an Italian asks for "pan' e burro"? |
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